User talk:Sunnynai
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Hola, he visto en tu página que hablas español, por ello te escribo en esta lengua. No hablo LdP pero, como puedes ver, estoy intentando mejorar algunas características de la Wiki como son las plantillas y las categorías. He creado algún que otro artículo también. ¿Podrías corregir [[espaniol]] y traducir el siguiente artículo por favor? | Hola, he visto en tu página que hablas español, por ello te escribo en esta lengua. No hablo LdP pero, como puedes ver, estoy intentando mejorar algunas características de la Wiki como son las plantillas y las categorías. He creado algún que otro artículo también. ¿Podrías corregir [[espaniol]] y traducir el siguiente artículo por favor? | ||
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* Continents and regions - kontinenta e region | * Continents and regions - kontinenta e region | ||
* Hydrological features - gidrologike kwalitaa | * Hydrological features - gidrologike kwalitaa | ||
| − | * Terrestrial features - | + | * Terrestrial features - grunta-ney kwalitaa |
* Artistic movements - artistike muva | * Artistic movements - artistike muva | ||
* Architecture - arkitektura | * Architecture - arkitektura | ||
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Climate: The enormous size of Russia and the remoteness of many areas from the sea result in the dominance of the humid continental climate, which is prevalent in all parts of the country except for the tundra and the extreme southeast. Mountains in the south obstruct the flow of warm air masses from the Indian Ocean, while the plain of the west and north makes the country open to Arctic and Atlantic influences. | Climate: The enormous size of Russia and the remoteness of many areas from the sea result in the dominance of the humid continental climate, which is prevalent in all parts of the country except for the tundra and the extreme southeast. Mountains in the south obstruct the flow of warm air masses from the Indian Ocean, while the plain of the west and north makes the country open to Arctic and Atlantic influences. | ||
| − | Chabi, thank you very much for all your work! That isn't too difficult for me to translate everything you ask, but the fact is that lidepla simply is not ready to compile the whole wiki. We have to have some tradition for that, dealing with proper names, for example, and we have to get special scientific and encyclopedia style. By now it is just absent. We have been translating mainly literature, so at the moment lidepla-wiki is more the lidepla-library for us. | + | Chabi, thank you very much for all your work! That isn't too difficult for me to translate everything you ask, but the fact is that lidepla simply is not ready to compile the whole wiki. We have to have some tradition formed for all that, dealing with proper names, for example, and we have to get special scientific and encyclopedia style. By now it is just absent. We have been translating mainly literature, so at the moment lidepla-wiki is more the lidepla-library for us. |
| − | Thus we | + | Thus we are happy with the list itself and will be even more happy if you make a number of good templates. But that's all, I'm afraid, that we need right now. [[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 21:33, 20 May 2014 (GMT-4) |
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| + | == Dates == | ||
| + | How do you write the dates in LdP? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 14:22, 21 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | :By now there are no strict regulations. So one can do it in the most familiar way. For example, 21.05.2014 for today. [[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 14:52, 21 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : Thanks. Could you please translate the following paragraph? | ||
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| + | Could you please translate this? | ||
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| + | Governance: According to the Constitution of Russia, the country is a federation and semi-presidential republic, wherein the President is the head of state and the Prime Minister is the head of government. | ||
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| + | Military: The Russian military is divided into the Ground Forces, Navy, and Air Force. | ||
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| + | Russia is the largest country in the world. | ||
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| + | As you can see, I've started an article about the human body. | ||
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| + | Thanks for your help. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 15:01, 21 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | :I can, but this information is there in the article text. | ||
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| + | guverning: Segun Rusia-ney konstitusion, Rusia es federasion e haf-presidentike respublika, al ke presidenta es landa-lider e prime minista es guverna-lider. | ||
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| + | armee: Rusia-ney armee fa-dividi inu forsas do arda, do mar e do aira. | ||
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| + | Rusia es zuy gran landa in munda.[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 15:14, 21 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Translation == | ||
| + | More phrase to translate, thus, we can complete a bit more the wiki. | ||
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| + | Spain is one of the world's leading countries in the development and production of renewable energy. | ||
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| + | : Espania es un de munda-ney avangarde landa in developa e produkting de novisibil energia. | ||
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| + | Confucius's principles had a basis in common Chinese tradition and belief. He championed strong family loyalty, ancestor worship, respect of elders by their children and of husbands by their wives. He also recommended family as a basis for ideal government. He espoused the well-known principle "Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself", an early version of the Golden Rule. | ||
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| + | Although Confucianism is often followed in a religious manner by the Chinese, arguments continue over whether it is a religion. | ||
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| + | Thanks. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 15:42, 21 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | This is to difficult for me, I'm afraid. We'll try together with Dimi, when he has some spare time, Sorry.[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 02:43, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | My idea regarding translation is to get small pieces of text translated. For instance, the article [[Rusia]] is one of the most completed articles, however it lacks a lot of information. I think that having a line on each topic (arts, history, geography, etc.) should be fine. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 14:33, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : How do you write the kings' names? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 14:37, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | * No regulations. So, like king Georg II, for example. [[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 16:43, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: How do you say "musical instruments"? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 15:16, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | * musikale instrumenta, I suppose. [[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 16:43, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: "Musikatul" is shorter --[[User:Dimi|Dimi]] 21:16, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | I've created a new template that redirects to all pages that needs correction. Please, revise these templates: | ||
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| + | * [[Template:Korekti]] | ||
| + | * [[Template:Udali]] | ||
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| + | From now on, you just need to go to the category "Malaka fo korekti" to see if there is any article that needs to be revised and to the category "Udali" to see if any articles needs to be deleted. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 16:34, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | * How do I find the category? The rediraction doesn't take place. Or there are just no articles in the list at the moment? | ||
| + | (The text should be "sey makala nidi gei korekti")[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 16:43, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : The category is [[:Category:Makala fo korekti]] --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 16:45, 22 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Translation == | ||
| + | Bi karim tradukti sey frasa inu Lidepla: | ||
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| + | Architecture (Latin architectura, after the Greek ἀρχιτέκτων – arkhitekton – from ἀρχι- "chief" and τέκτων "builder, carpenter, mason") is both the process and the product of planning, designing, and constructing buildings and other physical structures. Architectural works, in the material form of buildings, are often perceived as cultural symbols and as works of art. Historical civilizations are often identified with their surviving architectural achievements. | ||
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| + | Shukran por helpa --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 13:17, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | * Arkitektura (Latin architectura, afte elin ἀρχιτέκτων – arkhitekton – fon ἀρχι- "shefe" e τέκτων "bilder, karpenter, murer") es i proses i resulta de planing, desaining e konstrukting de bilduras do farke tip. Arkitektura-ney gunturas, in materiale forma de bilduras, gei oftem kaulu kom kultura-ney simbol e kom arta-ney gunsa. Historike sivilisasiones gei oftem identisi segun ley haishi existi-she arkitekturikas.--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 15:52, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | As you may have seen, I've changed the main page. I have also created several articles, such as: | ||
| + | * [[Gramatika de Lingwa de Planeta]] | ||
| + | * [[Lingua Franca Nova]] | ||
| + | * [[Gulao-elin]] | ||
| + | * [[Ruski]] | ||
| + | * [[Suda-slavianike lingwas]] | ||
| + | * [[Esta-slavianike lingwas]] | ||
| + | * [[Westa-slavianike lingwas]] | ||
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| + | Could you please correct them? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 16:13, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :Now it's OK, I suppose.--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:18, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: Perfect. Please, make sure when you correct the article you delete the template <nowiki>{{Korekti}}</nowiki> that appears at the top of the page as it will not be needed anymore. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:28, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :::OK. And about the main page: it's OK, but personally I would prefer the colours to be somehow a little closer to each other... --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:30, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :::: What do you mean by "closer"? Should I change the orange that appears in "Lingwa de Planeta" into a blue one, for instance? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:39, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Shefpaja == | ||
| + | :::::I think, two big rectangles (with the links) could be of nearly the same colour, only with one rectangle (for example the first one with grammar, texts etc.) being a little darker. And the same thig with the titles: one for "Lingwa de planeta" could be also purple, but either a little darker or a little lighter. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:46, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | Tell me which colours you prefer from [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Lenguas_del_mundo#C.C3.B3digo_de_colores here], please. Select two purples for the title boxes. (I have to say that I don't control very well Wiki codes so I will try to do my best). --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:51, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :I like Mesoamerica (#8899FD) and Area Intermedia (#6677A) most. They are not purple, but they are good, I think. And letters should be white on them. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:56, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: Ok. So let's say Mesoamérica for Lingwa de Planeta and Área Intermedia for Kategorias, ok? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 18:01, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :::Exactly. And some Lenguas na-dené (#DDEEFF) For rectangle with grammar and so on.--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 18:10, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 18:21, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : I have already changed the main page. I can't do anything else because the codes are quite difficult for me. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 19:35, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: That's OK now. White letters would be even better, but we can't do without them Thank you! --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 21:51, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Tradukti == | ||
| + | Bi karim tradukti sey frasa inu Lidepla: | ||
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| + | Mechanics (Greek μηχανική) is the branch of science concerned with the behavior of physical bodies when subjected to forces or displacements, and the subsequent effects of the bodies on their environment. | ||
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| + | Shukran por helpa --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 22:11, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | :Mekanika (elin μηχανική) es vigyan-brancha kel gwansi suluka de fisike korpa exposi-ney a forsa o loko-shifta, e sekwi-she efekta bay korpa an milyoo. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 22:30, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | Bi karim korekti makala [[Espania]]. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 22:38, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | Yoshi [[Rusia]], plis. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 22:52, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :I would chamge "vidi toshi" into "kan yoshi".--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 23:10, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | Which is the difference between ''yoshi'' and ''toshi''? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 23:34, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :"toshi" is like "too", "yoshi" - like "also".--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 23:39, 24 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | Bi karim korekti makala [[Katolike Regas]]. I had problems to translate three proper nouns: Canarias, Castile and Navarre. I tried to adapt the names and I let them as Kanarias, Kastilia and Navara. Castile (''Castilla'' in Spanish, means "Land of castles". Maybe we should translated as "Kastela-landa"?) --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 00:02, 25 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Tradukti == | ||
| + | Bi karim tradukti sey frasa inu Lidepla: | ||
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| + | Electronics deals with electrical circuits that involve active electrical components such as vacuum tubes, transistors, diodes and integrated circuits, and associated passive interconnection technologies. Commonly, electronic devices contain circuitry consisting primarily or exclusively of active semiconductors supplemented with passive elements; such a circuit is described as an electronic circuit. | ||
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| + | Shukran por helpa --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 22:12, 25 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | Elektronika zun den elektrike sirkuitas e ley komponentas, tal kom vakum-ney tuba, transistor, dioda, den integri-ney sirkuitas e den gwansi-ney teknologias de pasive interkonekting. Pinchanem, elektronike mekanisma konteni sirkuitatot kel komponi primem o exklusivem aus aktive haf-kondukter kun pasive elementas; tal sirkuita gei deskribi kom elektronike sirkuita. | ||
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| + | == Traduki == | ||
| + | Bi karim tradukti sey frasa inu Lidepla: | ||
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| + | Economics is the social science that studies the behavior of individuals, households, and organizations (called economic actors, players, or agents), when they manage or use scarce resources, which have alternative uses, to achieve desired ends. Agents are assumed to act rationally, have multiple desirable ends in sight, limited resources to obtain these ends, a set of stable preferences, a definite overall guiding objective, and the capability of making a choice. There exists an economic problem, subject to study by economic science, when a decision (choice) is made by one or more resource-controlling players to attain the best possible outcome under bounded rational conditions. In other words, resource-controlling agents maximize value subject to the constraints imposed by the information the agents have, their cognitive limitations, and the finite amount of time they have to make and execute a decision. Economic science centers on the activities of the economic agents that comprise society. They are the focus of economic analysis. | ||
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| + | Shukran por helpa. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 14:37, 31 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | * There are some things I don't know, so I suppose we can wait a little fo Dimi to translate. | ||
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| + | Bythe way, how does the new wictionary works? I see I have no right to edit anything there. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 21:23, 31 May 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : There is a problem with the language code so the only way to create new pages is by writing Wt/lpl/Name of the article. You click in the red link and you create the new article. Please, create and account and vote in [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Lingwa_de_Planeta here]. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 00:13, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :: You can see an example of a page [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/lpl/Swasti here] and [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/lpl/hola here] --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 14:05, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :::Do you really believe that we need such a long list? I think a couple of languages (no more than 10) is enough for now. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 15:05, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : Perfect, I'll change it immediately. Shall we leave the following ones: | ||
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| + | * Spanish - espaniol | ||
| + | * English - iglish | ||
| + | * French - franse | ||
| + | * German - doiche | ||
| + | * Portuguese - portuges | ||
| + | * Italian - italiano | ||
| + | * Esperanto - esperanto | ||
| + | * Russian - ruski | ||
| + | * Chinese - han | ||
| + | * Arabic - arabe | ||
| + | * Hindi - hindi | ||
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| + | I will need help with the last three. I would like to ask you, have you got facebook? --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 15:24, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : I've changed the list a little. | ||
| + | Yes, my facebook is "Lingwa de planeta", I admitted your friendship request some days ago. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:37, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | I suppose, there also have to be fields for: | ||
| + | * origin | ||
| + | * examples of usage | ||
| + | * related words | ||
| + | --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:38, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | : Ok. How do you translate that into LdP? I will add them to the main template. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:40, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | * origin | ||
| + | * yusa-exampla | ||
| + | * relaten worda | ||
| + | --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 17:47, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/lpl/Shefpaja Here] is the new main page and the main [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/lpl/karikatura layout] of an article. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 18:13, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | ::That's OK, thank you! I would only put Russian and English as first in the list, because these two are the languages we can translate all the words into. --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 18:49, 1 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Nove makalas == | ||
| + | Bi karim korekti sey makala: | ||
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| + | * [[Ekonomia]] | ||
| + | * [[Religion]] | ||
| + | * [[Rusia]] | ||
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| + | Shukran fo helpa. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:32, 5 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | It has been a great idea to create a page for gathering all the texts that are available in Lidepla :) --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 22:11, 8 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | :: :) I need it for collect examples for the big grammar written in lidepla. By now there are only the most important texts. | ||
| + | You can read at least some of them for practice lidepla. Little tales by Rodari are rather funny indeed. :) --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 22:39, 8 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | == Tradukti == | ||
| + | Bi karim tradukti sey makala: | ||
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| + | The Roman Republic (Latin: Res Pvblica Romana) was the period of ancient Roman civilization beginning with the overthrow of Roman Kingdom, traditionally dated to 509 BC, and ending in 27 BC with the establishment of the Roman Empire. | ||
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| + | Shukran fo helpa. | ||
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| + | ::Romane Republika (latine:...) es perioda de Romane sivilisasion fon ruina de Romane Rega (509 BK, segun tradision) til estbla de Romane Imperia (27 BK). --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 19:22, 10 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
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| + | As you may see, I am creating the articles of the countries of the world with the help of Dimi. Then, I will add the templaes and pass on to other subject such as science or history. --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 17:54, 10 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | ::Es ya hao! Danke!--[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 19:22, 10 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | : I've left it as Roma-ney republika, based on Roma-ney imperia (which was translated by Dimi). --[[User:Chabi1|Chabi1]] 09:00, 11 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
| + | :::It's OK. Dimi is the authority. :) --[[User:Sunnynai|Sunnynai]] 14:07, 11 June 2014 (GMT-4) | ||
